This forum has been archived. Please visit the new forum at https://community.narniaweb.com/

Cair Paravel.....

The cultures, creatures, geography — anything about the books!

Moderators: DiGoRyKiRkE, Varnafinde

Cair Paravel.....

Postby Pauljones » Feb 04, 2010 5:39 pm

Hey everyone.

Im currently writing a Chronicles of Narnia fan-fiction story and just had a quick question about Cair Paravel...

Is it just a castle or is there a city around it aswell?

Thanks

Paul x
Pauljones
NarniaWeb Newbie
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Feb 04, 2010
Gender: Male

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby Lion's Emblem » Feb 04, 2010 11:05 pm

Hmm, I don't think that it's ever particular said straightforward, but I always imagined it to be just the castle. When the four kings and queens ruled, there wouldn't have been any other humans in Narnia, so there probably wouldn't be a need for a city. When Caspian rebuilt the castle, he might have included a township as well.
Image
Sig by Dernhelm_of_Rohan
NWsis to eves_daughter & ForeverFan
User avatar
Lion's Emblem
NarniaWeb Fanatic
 
Posts: 4667
Joined: Apr 27, 2007
Location: Narnia

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby TheGeneral » Feb 08, 2010 4:36 pm

I believe it was just a castle. In PC the ruins were on an island and I don't think the island was very huge. But in LB I think there was a city around it mentioned, but not a 100% sure. ;)
Image
User avatar
TheGeneral
NarniaWeb Junkie
 
Posts: 566
Joined: Sep 06, 2009
Location: Playing hockey
Gender: Female

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby daughter of the King » Feb 13, 2010 2:10 pm

In LWW, Cair is described as a castle. In PC, Cair has an orchard that has grown around the ruins of the castle. I don't think there's anything about Cair in VDT. In SC, Cair is again described as a castle, but there is a dock that Caspian's ship leaves from. In HHB, Cair is not described, but it is insinuated that there is a dock that Edmund, Susan, and Corin arrive at. In MN, Cair was not yet built. In LB, it is stated that Cair was conquered and Farsight saw several Narnians fleeing the city.
So, Cair is just a castle until sometime after the reign of King Caspian. So whether or not Cair is a city or a castle depends on when you're story is set.
Image
Narniaweb sister to Pattertwig's Pal
User avatar
daughter of the King
Moderator
Princess Dot
 
Posts: 2607
Joined: Sep 22, 2009
Gender: Female

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby Liberty Hoffman » Feb 13, 2010 2:20 pm

the book doesn't really say, but I've always just imagined it as a castle alone by it self.....
Image
NW sister - wild rose ~ NW big sis - ramagut
Born in the water
Take quick to the trees
I want all that You are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EADBC57vKfQ
User avatar
Liberty Hoffman
NarniaWeb Master
Libby the Epic; sub in the WC
 
Posts: 11761
Joined: Aug 22, 2008
Location: Where the gully's deep in green and golden glades
Gender: Female

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby DiGoRyKiRkE » Feb 15, 2010 10:41 am

Well castles in medieval times were often surrounded by a small city that would have been used to stock the castle. Farms would have been planted to provide food, a blacksmith would provide metal goods, etc... If you are writing a fan-fiction, you'll have to say what time period in whic you're writing. According LWW, as well as the artwork provided by Pauline Baynes, during that time, it is nothing but a castle. Going by the artwork, as well as the books, it is probable that Caspian would have built up the castle to a city. So. . . it all depends on when you're writing.
Member of Ye Olde NarniaWeb
WC: Old Forum: 1024 New Forum: 240
User avatar
DiGoRyKiRkE
Moderator
The Logical Ornithological Mod
 
Posts: 23238
Joined: Mar 29, 2005
Location: Ohio: The Buckeye State
Gender: Male

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby CorazonBandido55 » Mar 10, 2010 3:23 pm

I would assume that in the Last Battle, Cair Paravel has become a city instead of just a castle... and since the Chronicles dont really say and its a fan fiction.. make it however you like :)
your fellow Telmarine
User avatar
CorazonBandido55
NarniaWeb Nut
 
Posts: 394
Joined: Jul 28, 2008
Location: New Braunfels, TX, USA
Gender: Male

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby Aravis Narnia » Mar 12, 2010 2:26 pm

Remember that in LWW, Narnia is inhabited by very few humans- the other creatures do not live in regular cities like humans do. So it was an isolated castle. If it had other residences around, they were not meant to last long- they may have been made out of straw or wood rather than bricks, hehe.

But by PC, things may have changed. And by LB, likely to have changed as well.
User avatar
Aravis Narnia
NarniaWeb Fanatic
 
Posts: 4546
Joined: Oct 09, 2009
Location: Florida
Gender: Female

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby polly plummer » Mar 16, 2010 4:49 pm

In line with what was said above - I think it depends on when you're talking about. It seems to be a castle in LWW but In LB it says that Tirian enjoyed visiting his lodge in the country (where he was staying at the beginning of the storey - chapter 2) and that he enjoyed getting away 'from the pomp of Cair Paravel, the royal city'
polly plummer
NarniaWeb Regular
 
Posts: 82
Joined: Oct 18, 2009
Gender: Female

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby NarnianQueen10 » Apr 01, 2010 9:13 am

I think it was just a city in the Golden Age, but later on, as the human population of Narnia grew, a town probably sprang up around the main castle, like what polly said. But then again, it all depends on what era you're talking about. ;)

~Queeny! ;;)
      

Duracell: the power of 10,000 rabbits in one battery
Member of Edmund's Fan Club!
Ramandu's Daughter Club member!
User avatar
NarnianQueen10
NarniaWeb Nut
 
Posts: 121
Joined: Apr 21, 2009
Location: Finchley!
Gender: Female

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby DamselJillPole » Apr 02, 2010 3:07 pm

I thought it was just the castle that was a community surrounding all Narnian's and it was every ones home, not just the royals. That's the way I look at it.
Image
Long Live King Caspian & Queen Liliandil Forever!
Jill+Tirian! Let there be Jilrian!
User avatar
DamselJillPole
NarniaWeb Fanatic
 
Posts: 4707
Joined: Jan 14, 2010
Location: A couple of Films here and there.
Gender: Female

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby Liberty Hoffman » Apr 02, 2010 6:26 pm

if you are writing your own novel, I am sure you can add a town around the castle!
Image
NW sister - wild rose ~ NW big sis - ramagut
Born in the water
Take quick to the trees
I want all that You are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EADBC57vKfQ
User avatar
Liberty Hoffman
NarniaWeb Master
Libby the Epic; sub in the WC
 
Posts: 11761
Joined: Aug 22, 2008
Location: Where the gully's deep in green and golden glades
Gender: Female

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby wolfloversk » Apr 03, 2010 9:04 am

I think that it depends on the time period, I don't think a city was built originally, but it was built sometime in between the reign of Caspian X and that of Tirian.
Avi by AstrowolfD
User avatar
wolfloversk
NarniaWeb Zealot
The Riddle Master
 
Posts: 6916
Joined: Dec 28, 2009
Location: Jurassic World
Gender: Female

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby DamselJillPole » Apr 09, 2010 4:40 pm

When you write this fanfic of yours give links. I love fics just as long it isn't Suspian.
Image
Long Live King Caspian & Queen Liliandil Forever!
Jill+Tirian! Let there be Jilrian!
User avatar
DamselJillPole
NarniaWeb Fanatic
 
Posts: 4707
Joined: Jan 14, 2010
Location: A couple of Films here and there.
Gender: Female

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby Boy Scout » Jul 31, 2010 2:15 pm

DamselJillPole wrote:When you write this fanfic of yours give links. I love fics just as long it isn't Suspian.

Oh man, do I argee with you on that one!

I had always thought of it as have a small city in or near it, but Its not like New York.

Liberty Hoffman wrote:if you are writing your own novel, I am sure you can add a town around the castle!

Don't forget that either!
Image
Packers=13 time Wrold Champs!

I'm not inactive, I'm just very, very, busy.
User avatar
Boy Scout
NarniaWeb Junkie
 
Posts: 909
Joined: Jun 14, 2010
Location: I'm likely camping
Gender: Male

Re: Cair Paravel.....

Postby HighQueen_Of_LanternWaste » Aug 11, 2010 9:26 pm

I believe the name Cair Paravel refers to just the castle as the capital of Narnia, up until Caspian's reign when there is town I think it changes to the castle and the town to all be considered the capital Cair Paravel. When the Pevensies ruled it was only a castle without any surrounding buildings, so only the actual castle could be called said name. It really depends on which time period you're writing it in!
Image
Pray for Skandar member!

"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." -C.S. Lewis
User avatar
HighQueen_Of_LanternWaste
NarniaWeb Nut
 
Posts: 102
Joined: May 13, 2010
Location: High Queen's quarters, Cair Paravel.
Gender: Female

Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests

cron