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Re: Queen Swanwhite

Postby Varnafinde » Feb 19, 2010 6:00 pm

At the end of VDT it says,
Caspian and his men all came safely back to Ramandu's Island. And the three lords woke from their sleep. Caspian married Ramandu's daughter and they all reached Narnia in the end, and she became a great queen and the mother and grandmother of great kings.


This seems to confirm that Caspian married RD before the sailed back to Narnia.
Another case where the timeline doesn't fit with the facts of the books, then.
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Re: Queen Swanwhite

Postby wolfloversk » Feb 19, 2010 7:25 pm

Interesting Varnafinde, then perhaps we should rely more on the books than the timeline, and assume that Jewel was correct.
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Re: Queen Swanwhite

Postby DiGoRyKiRkE » Feb 23, 2010 5:06 pm

I agree with you 100% wolfloversk. I have never trusted the timeline, because it was written by somebody other than Jack Lewis, therefore, it does not come from the mind of C.S. Lewis. Also, it was done several years after his death, so that it couldn't even be corroborated with his account of the story.
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Re: Queen Swanwhite

Postby kaleidoscopeyes » Mar 08, 2010 12:42 pm

I think a good explanation for all the discrepancies found in the Chronicles, is that perhaps these stories were all oral histories in Narnia before they were eventually put into written form (remember in TSC when Jill and Eustace listened to someone tell 'The Horse and His Boy'?) and therefore are prone to the mistakes made when a story is repeated, and repeated, from story teller, to listener, to the next, etc. (ever played 'telephone'?)

I think that Lewis was scholar enough to never forget that his own Christian bible was this sort of text...(and therefore full of contradictions and mistakes)...

And BTW, if you read the CoN in the original order, these discrepancies are much less obvious...

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Re: Queen Swanwhite

Postby coracle » Mar 09, 2010 3:08 am

Kaleidoscopeyes, that sounds like a very authentic reason for stories varying within the world of Narnia. Jack Lewis was scholar enough to know that oral traditions were often maintained intact for long periods, and also scholar enough to know that his Bible did NOT become altered like a game of whispers. (PM me sometime if you'd like to discuss it)

DigoryKirke, we understand that the timeline was in fact written by Jack, but it was not published until it was included in Mr Hooper's book "Past Watchful Dragons".
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Re: Queen Swanwhite

Postby HM Swanwhite » Mar 19, 2010 8:12 pm

I love this character, though she be a minor one! And as you can see I used her name as my user name!! :p

I personally think this is either a slip-up of Jack's or that he never got round to amending his timeline. Though the idea of two Swanwhite's is interesting I do not feel it is what Jack meant or he would have mentioned both of them. I'm a bit of a purist so don't mind me. I'm okay with just one Swanwhite. I think perhaps when Jewel was relating the story of her that he didn't necessarily no more than he said or he would have said it (or perhaps it just wasn't recorded in the book ;) ).

Swanwhite's reputation or claim to fame and remembrance was through her reflection in the pool - didn't it also say it was like a light? Sorry, haven't read the book in awhile. :)

Another interesting character mentioned at the same time was Moonhare! Also very cool. I think they were noted and remembered more for their extraordinary abilities or characteristics more than anything else.
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Re: Queen Swanwhite

Postby DamselJillPole » Apr 09, 2010 4:22 pm

I think it was a simple mistake that he had forgotten that or she could be immortal. lol! I know very unlikely. Obviously. But it's never stupid to guess. It would make an interesting movie or fan fic though. :ymapplause:
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Re: Queen Swanwhite

Postby Katana » Oct 26, 2010 7:48 pm

Lewis should deffinetly writen another book just explaining all these mysteries and questions about the Narnia series :p

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