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Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 08, 2009 6:23 am
by NothinButNarnia
true, JillPoleWannabe123, the actress' ability to act "Jill" is the most important thing.

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 08, 2009 8:43 am
by HappyGiant
You're on the money JillPoleWannaBe! The fans may throw really small fits if the actresses don't look like what they wanted Jill to, but we'll go crazy if she can't act. ;) :D
However, i wouldn't worry about that. Ben Barnes looks nothing like Caspian, but he acts good, I'll give him that!
And they can cut the actresses hair (I might even prefer it, but no straightining her hair or curling it or changing her eye color or hair color just for the fans. Don't change the actresses appearance, keep it natural!)
Has anyone any other pretty much unknown actresses around 14 years of age? I saw somone who reminded me of jill at camp, but she isn't an actress, she's to young, and she's an American, like me.

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 08, 2009 10:06 am
by Varnafinde
Wind_Eagle wrote:I do have to point out that C.S. Lewis mentioned Jill DID have curls, at least I think he did, when they still don't know they are to be eaten by the 'friendly giants', and they act kind of foolishly, Lewis mentions that Jill moves her hair this way and that, shaking her curls, in a very stupid and childish way (and then the giantesses all start crying and saying that it's a shame....). I can't be completely sure, since I don't have my copy anywhere near, but could someone please check for me? thanx.


You're right:

And then (it made her hot all over when she remembered it afterwards) she would put her head on one side in an idiotic fashion which grown-ups, giant and otherwise, thought very fetching, and shake her curls, and fidget, and say, "Oh, I do wish it was tomorrow night, don't you? Do you think the time will go quickly till then?"

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 08, 2009 12:56 pm
by TheGeneral
I think Jill is gonna be harder to act than the other girls so far. Not that Lucy and Susan are 'simple', it's just that Jill seems a little more complex and might be harder to nail down on screen.

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 08, 2009 1:48 pm
by NothinButNarnia
true, TheGeneral, Jill has a lot of dimensions, feelings, etc. about her that Lucy and Susan dont have

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 08, 2009 2:09 pm
by HappyGiant
I always thought Jill curled her hair. When I read the book I didn't notice the part about her shaking her curls (ignorant me 8-| ) but I imagined her hair curled there. Then I read it again and noticed that line. So I've always imagined her with straight-ish hair. But that's only my opinion.
NothinButNarnia- Neither does Peter or Digory or Polly or (maybe) Eustace and edmund.

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 09, 2009 12:29 pm
by NothinButNarnia
I think that expression "shake her curls" is more of a fact stating that she shook her hair in a childish fashion, I dont think everyone should take it so literally

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 11, 2009 5:27 pm
by ellz_bellz
Yes, the actress who plays Jill doesn't have to be the exact dead-straight image of Jill. She just as to be able to act, THATS ALL I ASK!

That point where Jill 'shakes her curls' is actually, I believe a turning point for her. Shestarts to see the difference between being fake childish and ACTUALLY childish. She starts to take a bit of the responsibility for her self, I think

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 12, 2009 8:38 am
by HappyGiant
All of the characters have a change in them beginning to end. Lucy learns to trust Aslan and Edmund isn't a bully and is a Just King, now. Peter grows confident of being the leader with Aslan's help, Caspian like Peter, is a child, then suddenly a King with big responsibilities. Susan also learns to let go of hr fears in PC (book). Eustace isn't a spoiled child by the end of VDT, and Jill has a change too. Good observation ellz_bellz. She's still a kid, but during SC she matures a great deal. I think the turning point is when she realizes the LotGK led her and her friends to the castle so the giants could eat them for Thanksgiving.

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 12, 2009 12:47 pm
by NothinButNarnia
yeah, i'm not saying the other characters don't change, Jill just seems to have a lot more going on about her than other characters

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 14, 2009 6:19 pm
by Broadway_Freak
NothinButNarnia wrote:true, TheGeneral, Jill has a lot of dimensions, feelings, etc. about her that Lucy and Susan dont have


I think Jill is alot easier for tween/teen girls to relate to than other characters. Her personality is alot bigger, and Silver Chair relates Jill's thoughts and feelings alot more than any book does for the Pevensie girls.

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 14, 2009 8:09 pm
by Lillian
ellz_bellz wrote:Yes, the actress who plays Jill doesn't have to be the exact dead-straight image of Jill. She just as to be able to act, THATS ALL I ASK!


My thoughts exactly ellz_bellz I do want her to look somewhat similar to what C.S. Lewis described though, because it won't feel as authentic if she looks completely different.

Quick Question: Will SC be the next movie they make? (If they make another one :( )

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 14, 2009 9:27 pm
by GlimGlum
Lillian wrote:Quick Question: Will SC be the next movie they make? (If they make another one :( )


Yes, if VDT is successful then SC is certain to follow. :ymapplause:

Just finished rereading the chapter where Jill is given the task by Aslan and is blown into Narnia on his breath. Since she is my favorite human character from our world who enters Narnia, I think getting who she is right is of primary importance.

Of secondary importance would be her appearance. It would be nice to say of the actress that gets the part: "she looks like Jill or close enough".

But wow, I wonder how many thousands of young girls want to play her and will get to audition, or not? #:-s Casting Jill Pole will certainly be an interesting and important aspect of getting The Silver Chair off the ground.

Well, those are my current thoughts about Jill. :)

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 15, 2009 4:54 pm
by NothinButNarnia
Yes, I agree glimglum, Jill has so much depth and, how do i say it, potential, of being the most interesting human character in Narnia. I really hope they choose a very talented and diverse actress to play her - one that is great at facial expression (esp. in the eyes) and can act without words.

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 15, 2009 4:57 pm
by eustacegirl
I think her hair should be past shoulders in SC, mid back in LB. I think seh should eb feisty and becomes more gentle and femine and tender

Re: Jill Pole

PostPosted: Sep 16, 2009 1:53 pm
by HappyGiant
seh and eb? You mean she and be?
Well, I never really thought of her as feisty. But that's just me. Everyone else seems to say she is.
Overall, I like you're description, Eustacegirl.
NothinButNarnia- ooh! Yes! Eye acting, like Trumpkin!

- :)Giant