Ramandu & Lilliandil
Posted: Dec 05, 2010 5:29 am
Overall i was genuinely fine with most of the set-up they had going on for the scenes on Ramandu's Island - again the entire island sequence seemed far too short for my preference, but unlike the Lone Islands it was probably long enough for what they intended to do with it in the movie, so it didn't really seem rushed (short, but not rushed, if you get what i mean)
A few questions though regarding Ramandu and his Daughter -
Did anyone else find it slightly odd that they referenced Ramandu and/or his Island by name at least 4 times in the movie and yet we never got to meet him? I of course knew that Ramandu wasn't going to be in the movie beforehand, but my brother who also came to the premiere with me said he thought it odd that they should build up all these references to Ramandu and then not go anywhere with it - i think he was expecting that after the Dark Island was defeated we would get to meet Ramandu, because the number of references made to his name would seemingly indicate he was an important part of the whole Swords/Mist plot.
Secondly, as i mentioned we've kind of known/suspected that Ramandu wouldn't be in the movie for a long time, but one of the main (if not only) arguments that came up in favour of axing him was that it would allow his Daughter to take over some aspects of his role, giving her more screentime and allowing them to better develop the relationship with Caspian - and yet in the end, she was in the movie for less than she is in the book, and the relationship with Caspian was none existent, bar a strong hint of physical attraction when they first meet.
It also seemed they had dramatically cut down the whole "Follow the Blue Star" plotline from the Leaked Script to the bare minimum, such that it kind of didn't really have much point to it in terms of forming any sort of through-line to the narrative anymore. In retrospect i would of quite liked to have seen them keep more of this plotline in as i think it was a fairly interesting idea to explore.
So i guess the questions there would be whether or not you thought they managed to justify their decision to axe Ramandu, and whether or not you think they gave Lilliandil enough presence in his absence?
A few questions though regarding Ramandu and his Daughter -
Did anyone else find it slightly odd that they referenced Ramandu and/or his Island by name at least 4 times in the movie and yet we never got to meet him? I of course knew that Ramandu wasn't going to be in the movie beforehand, but my brother who also came to the premiere with me said he thought it odd that they should build up all these references to Ramandu and then not go anywhere with it - i think he was expecting that after the Dark Island was defeated we would get to meet Ramandu, because the number of references made to his name would seemingly indicate he was an important part of the whole Swords/Mist plot.
Secondly, as i mentioned we've kind of known/suspected that Ramandu wouldn't be in the movie for a long time, but one of the main (if not only) arguments that came up in favour of axing him was that it would allow his Daughter to take over some aspects of his role, giving her more screentime and allowing them to better develop the relationship with Caspian - and yet in the end, she was in the movie for less than she is in the book, and the relationship with Caspian was none existent, bar a strong hint of physical attraction when they first meet.
It also seemed they had dramatically cut down the whole "Follow the Blue Star" plotline from the Leaked Script to the bare minimum, such that it kind of didn't really have much point to it in terms of forming any sort of through-line to the narrative anymore. In retrospect i would of quite liked to have seen them keep more of this plotline in as i think it was a fairly interesting idea to explore.
So i guess the questions there would be whether or not you thought they managed to justify their decision to axe Ramandu, and whether or not you think they gave Lilliandil enough presence in his absence?