An Unexpected Journey: The Movie Version

[waggawerewolf27]

Also the appendices to LOTR are supposed to have been compiled after events happened. In Bilbo's day nothing yet had unfolded, and so if they didn't know about Dol Guldur, and the Necromancer being Sauron, they wouldn't have known about the Witch King fleeing to Mordor, either.

Thanks for the quotation and yes, I did find it, though I vaguely remember also a fuller account of the fight between Eärnur and the Witch king somewhere else in the Unfinished tales or elsewhere. According to the appendices, the Witch King, who had been holed up in Angmar and in Rhudaur, was vanquished at Fornost and fled to Mordor to gather around him the other Nazgul.

I'd also expect that someone who had been injured with a morgul knife might be buried with special precautions, just in case.

Having finally found my copy of The Hobbit, I have just started to reread it. Does anyone know if Beorn will be in the new movie? Beorn would be easily my favourite character in The Hobbit, and the sneaky way Gandalf introduces the dwarves quite entertaining.

[Pattertwigs Pal]

I’ve copied some of my “essentials” and then grouped them based on how the movie did with them.
Yes/mostly:
The "good morning" conversation,
the dwaves' songs
the general distress of Bilbo,
the conflict between Thorin and Gandalf over Bilbo.
I'd like to see him him sitting off by himself nibbling at a biscuit because he lost his appetite,
Bilbo's worrying about a pocket handkerchief and Gandalf's bringing him some.
Bilbo to start to say burglar and end up being called a burrahobbit (I think that was there …)
the cook better than I cook line (once again I think that was in there)
Bilbo’s and Gollum’s conversation including the riddles word for word,
Bilbo’s overhearing Gollum describe what the ring can do
Bilbo’s having to get pass the goblins to escape
Bilbo’s losing his buttons and the Goblins picking them up (the first part happened but sadly not the second)
Bilbo’s sneaking pass Balin
Dori’s leaving Bilbo behind and having to get him and being almost gotten by a Warg
Gandalf’s sending different colored burning pinecones at the Wargs

Not included or done wrong
Bilbo saying struck by lightening.
Gandalf's having to come and get Bilbo
I want Bilbo to leave without telling anyone
The dwarfs being caught easily, excluding Thorin
Gandalf MUST save them by trickery and not by violence.
Bilbo's not producing the key until they have tried a lot of ways to open the door.
I want the elves to sing and joke but I don't want it to be too jarring with the Rivendell we saw in LotR.
Thorin and Gandalf should be a bit vexed that Elrond finds the moon letters.
Gandalf's examining the shelter carefully.
Bilbo's yelling surprisingly loud for his size, Dori and the other dwarfs carrying Bilbo.
Finding the ring by accident, (He saw it fall)
Bilbo’s accidently getting the time riddle, Gollum’s running pass Bilbo when he is invisible, , Bilbo’s leaping over Gollum,
Gandalf and the dwarves’ arguing about what to do about Bilbo – word for word
Bilbo’s explanation – word for word,
the company sliding down the rocks,
the eagles coming out of curiosity
the goblins laughing, the goblins’ setting the company’s trees on fire and singing,
Gandalf’s getting ready to jump, the eagles rescuing him,
Bilbo’s having to grab Dori’s legs to be saved, (I think someone did hang on to Dori’s legs but I don’t remember who it was)
Gandalf’s discussing with the Eagles how far they will take them,
NO FIGHTING except for with pine cones. (I was very upset with the charge of Thorin, Bilbo, etc. Bilbo in particular should not have had anything to do with the fighting)

And now some more thoughts. I was very disappointed that Bilbo started to abandon the dwarves. That is not in his character. I did not like that they added Azog (sp?). At first I really hated Radagast but now I’ve warm up to him a bit. I still don’t like the scene when he meets up with Gandalf but the early scenes aren’t as bad as I first thought. I was impressed with the way they did Thorin’s character. I was afraid that he would suffer a weakening of character like some leaders in the LotR movies. Thorin is every bit the leader and feels he deserves to be the leader. His stubbornness comes through clearly as well. I’m not saying that Thorin is necessarily an excellent leader. His stubbornness gets him and his followers into trouble. Bilbo’s character seems to be developing too quickly. In the book, he completely bungles the Troll incident. In the movie he is able to think fast enough to stall the trolls. In the book, he doesn’t do any fighting until the spiders and in the movie he has already fought with the orcs.