Re: The Fascinating World of Personality Types
Posted: May 14, 2015 4:49 pm
Humorous B-M related link. Mine is accurate.
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Michael Pierce wrote:The word I like to use to describe the INTP nature is “abstracting.” Perhaps the most distinguishing characteristic of the INTP nature is their great interest in getting to the bottom of things, stripping away all the accidental traits and getting at the underlying, bare, mathematical framework of a system or idea. For the INTP, this is the great search for truth, the search for the underlying principles of the universe.
This process results from the combined efforts of Ti and Ne. Ne observes objects through a fuzzy lens, so that it’s easier to imagine what other things the object could be and to associate the object with other objects. In exchange for clear facts it obtains possibilities and connections. This is combined with Ti, which tries to organize its impressions of objects into a perfect architectural system. Thus, the INTP looks at a fuzzy, interpretative image of objects, discovers the logical framework behind that interpretive image, and the resulting framework is something that can be applied to many other objects. In other words, if you had an animatronic bear, and you stripped away the outside suit and all of its outwards artistic appearance and skin covering and laid bare the undecorated, cold, but essential mechanics, then you could redress the robot in whatever skin you wanted: bunny, duck, fox, crocodile, human. The underlying mechanics would be the same. The INTP is not just looking for the underlying logical structure of things, but is looking for logical principles that are applicable to a multitude of appearances or circumstances.
The Rose-Tree Dryad wrote:One quiz I really like for offering a deeper look is the Keys 2 Cognition quiz, which was developed by a UCLA professor who specializes in the neuroscience of personality. Besides the benefit of having more variation in the kinds of answers you can give, it also gives you the cognitive function breakdown of your results (very helpful for typing) and a couple of other personality possibilities if the first result isn't quite right. It might help point you in the right direction!
Your Cognitive Development Profile
Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use) –
Se: 9.7. Unused
Si: 9.1. Unused
Ne: 57.5. Excellent use.
Ni: 35.7. Good use.
Te: 23.6. Limited use.
Ti: 34.1. Good use.
Fe: 18.2. Limited use
Fi: 52.1. Excellent use
Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INFP
Lead (Dominant) Process
Introverted Feeling (Fi): Staying true to who you really are. Paying close attention to your personal identity, values and beliefs. Checking with your conscience. Choosing behavior congruent with what is important to you.
Support (Auxilliary) Process
Extraverted Intuiting (Ne): Exploring the emerging patterns. Wondering about patterns of interaction across various situations. Checking what hypotheses and meanings fit best. Trusting what emerges as you shift a situation’s dynamics.
If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ENFP, or INTP
Ithilwen wrote:Well, it got it on the third try, at least. My high level of Ne doesn't surprise me at all. It amuses me that it registers my Fi so highly. I wonder why it thinks Ti – my actual dominant function – is so low.
The Rose-Tree Dryad wrote:Ugh, just when you think you find a useful quiz...
On the other hand, I can't really think of a model that makes sense for an INTP to have such high Fi, but it could just be that the testing apparatus is an imperfect tool. Hmmm, I'll have to think about it.
Ithilwen wrote:It probably is a useful quiz. I had some other friends take it and it typed them correctly. I'm the only one it got "wrong" and it still got me right on the third guess. I'm probably just the odd one out. There are a lot of factors that could make me "weird" for an INTP.
Ithilwen wrote:But seriously, one idea I had is that maybe my Ti is manifesting itself in a seemingly Fi-ish way. Fi is often associated with self-reflection, identity, and trying to understand and embrace one's own feelings. As a Ti-Ne person, I'm fascinated with analyzing things, especially psychology. So, of course, psychoanalyzing myself is the easiest way to carry out that hobby. I will often do identity stuff as part of that. It could be the test just mistook that habit as Fi instead of Ti.
The [INTP] is acutely aware of social conventions, such as saying "please" and "thank you", and expends much effort to conform to these rules to maintain the status of a "polite" person. But he tends to overdo the conventions themselves, as opposed to the relationships they are supposed to establish, and so ends up stepping on other people's toes (violating some less easily definable convention which he would never really want to conform to anyways). He prefers an easy-going environment where such conventions don't exist in the first place. When in a heated argument, an [INTP] can alienate others by his natural tendency to hold and defend strong opinions (Ti).
If asked to express a unique, personal sentiment, such as a favorite color or football team, the [INTP] may find difficulty choosing if there is no "obvious" answer. He often feels like he has no real personal, subjective feelings at all, and usually has to make a conscious decision where other types could easily supply an instinctive reaction.
The [INTP] also is very sensitive about how other people see him, feeling depressed if he has affections that are not returned. For this reason, he tends to avoid expressing signals that show interest in certain people (as opposed to signals about his general mood and demeanor, which he feels to be much more natural), but of course it just aggravates his loneliness, instead of relieving it.
shastastwin wrote:The test gave me ISFJ first and ESFJ second. I understand its confusion since I was very borderline E/I when I took the MBTI (I've since realized I'm also an ambivert) and have been in a very introverted phase for a while now.
Rosie wrote:How does that resonate with you, especially the bolded part? Some people would say that Socionics isn't the end-all, be-all anyway, and I would agree, but I think it has a lot of extremely helpful insights into areas of personality that MBTI doesn't extend. (It answered a lot of questions about my own type and others that MBTI wasn't able to explain, anyhow.)
But still... if your connection with Fi is an unusual expression of Ti... how do we know that your connection to Ti isn't an unusual expression of Fi? It's just a thought that crossed my mind when I was looking at your test results... only you can verify your type in this case. I know that you've considered yourself an INTP for quite a while now and I'm not trying to invalidate your assessment of yourself.
Ithilwen wrote:None of the quoted part really resonated with me, and the bolded part especially didn't. But then...it doesn't really describe any other INTP I've met either. I've gone out of my way to meet INTPs ever since I found out I was one, and all of them can list their favorite everything right off the bat. In fact, they usually like to make lists like Top 10 This and Top 25 That.