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Re: The Road Goes Ever On and On: Everything Tolkien - Book 2

Postby johobbit » Jan 16, 2020 10:23 am

I just read on "The Tolkienist" that Christopher Tolkien died last night at the age of 95! He was the third child and youngest son of JRRT and Edith T. It looks like the news is just out now, so expect more info as the day/week goes on.

Tolkien Gateway has an interesting short bio of his fascinating life. He contributed so much to the Middle-earth legend, being appointed literary executor after his father's death, and was the Director of the Tolkien Estate for years. Quite the steward! He was known for being fiercely protective of his father's magnificent works.

I am so grateful for his major contributions to the ongoing Middle-earth legacy.
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Re: The Road Goes Ever On and On: Everything Tolkien - Book 2

Postby Courtenay » Jan 16, 2020 1:39 pm

Thanks for sharing this, johobbit — sad news, but he certainly lived a very long and productive life. There's nothing on the BBC's website yet, surprisingly but I've just found a report from the Guardian. He certainly did an incredible amount of work to continue his father's legacy and bring his unpublished works to light. R.I.P. Christopher Tolkien.
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Re: The Road Goes Ever On and On: Everything Tolkien - Book 2

Postby coracle » Jan 16, 2020 3:39 pm

Thank you for the link. There are several things on Facebook now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tolkienfans/comments/epm420/christopher_tolkien_has_died/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Here's a comment someone made on there:
I reckon the Third Age just ended.

The Third Age ended with ... the departure of Elrond ... over the sea.

If JRR and Edith were Beren and Luthien, then their descendant Christopher was clearly Elrond - although 'lesser' than they, he was the final curator and preserver of ancient lore, and incorruptible, resisting the polluting taints of commercialism.


In the 2000s I read through a lot of the background books, but only bought 'Return of the Shadow' (2002), which is the 6th in the series. This is the first of the books about LOTR. I've also got Unfinished Tales (2010).
They are only a taste of what Christopher did, but I am so grateful to him for his huge task, completed so very diligently. His father's attention to detail was clearly inherited.
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Postby johobbit » Jan 16, 2020 3:57 pm

And here is a clip of Christopher Tolkien reading the final scenes in The Lord of the Rings. I cannot hear this without weeping. So powerfully moving.

And along with all he has accomplished, I find it really sad that he is gone, having been the last remaining Inkling.
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Postby Courtenay » Jan 17, 2020 4:54 am

johobbit wrote:And here is a clip of Christopher Tolkien reading the final scenes in The Lord of the Rings. I cannot hear this without weeping. So powerfully moving.


"I will not say, do not weep; for not all tears are an evil."

(I had tears in my eyes too... thanks, johobbit.)
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Postby Varnafinde » Jan 20, 2020 12:12 pm

Rather sad news. He will be missed.

I'm so glad that he managed to finish The Fall of Gondolin before he left us. I feel a special connection to Gondolin, and had been hoping for that book for years - and he decided to produce it, as the last book he made.

What a loyalty he showed to his father, spending so much of his own life to make his father's works available to the world! Amazing :ymapplause:
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Re: The Road Goes Ever On and On: Everything Tolkien - Book 2

Postby coracle » Apr 09, 2020 5:55 pm

Here's an interesting article written about the geographical locations that may have inspired Tolkien...
I recently joined The Tolkien Society on Facebook, and I am getting huge amounts of information from it. Mostly more than I can soak up.

https://arda.ir/the-tale-of-the-annotated-map-and-tolkien-hidden-riddles/?fbclid=IwAR2HofVWM-NyOTmtAWlfqXUuSqNSRqOO27u9WCQSx4xlONM5adE7wCHDOqI
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Re: The Road Goes Ever On and On: Everything Tolkien - Book 2

Postby johobbit » May 08, 2020 8:10 am

Heads up: Today Andy Serkis is reading The Hobbit, all in one sitting, I believe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/thehobbitath ... /gallery/0

It really is marvelous. He began at 5 a.m. EDT, and has not lost any of his grace and enthusiasm for the reading. The voices he portrays are wonderful, including Gollum/Sméagol's (of course!) and the spiders. Wish I could have heard him act Beorn. Can hardly wait for Bilbo's conversation with Smaug! I have not heard nearly all of the reading, but what I have watched, I am impressed. He is even dressed somewhat hobbitish, with a cozy vest.
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Postby Courtenay » May 08, 2020 4:54 pm

Preciousssssssssss! ;) Thanks for sharing that, johobbit — I should check it out as well.
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Re: The Road Goes Ever On and On: Everything Tolkien - Book 2

Postby johobbit » May 26, 2020 6:45 am

Here is the link to the full 10 & 1/2 hours: https://youtu.be/roSYIOY7xcs

And if you want something shorter ;)) "The Riddles in the Dark" chapter is not to be missed: https://youtu.be/YSeVHqp2eQA

When my 98 year old uncle died a year ago now, we had the privilege of choosing some books from his vast library: there was a 1969 beautiful one-volume hardcover edition of The Lord of the Rings, with extremely thin paper, so that the three volumes in one is only 1 & 1/2" thick!

Anyway, my husband is reading through this amazing story again, using Uncle Edgar's edition. Given the fact that it is such a high quality copy, it has been very disappointing to find a number of editing errors. /:) :P

The most humorous one is in the chapter, "Shelob's Lair". Shelob was after Frodo, gaining by the second, when Sam desperately called out that he was coming to help his master, but immediately


A long, clammy hand went over [Sam's] mouth and another caught him by the neck, while something wrapped itself about his leg. Taken off his guard he toppled backwards into the arms of his attacker.

"Got him!", hissed Gollum in his ear. "At last, my previous, we've got him, yes the nasssty hobbit. ... "

Well, we cracked up at that one. If there was to be an error there, how utterly apropos! :))
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Re: The Road Goes Ever On and On: Everything Tolkien - Book 2

Postby Courtenay » May 26, 2020 11:10 am

"At last, my previous..." =)) Oh gosh, I'll never be able to look at Gollum and his obsession with the Ring in quite the same way again... ;)
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Re: The Road Goes Ever On and On: Everything Tolkien - Book 2

Postby coracle » May 30, 2020 2:19 am

A Virtual Tour of Hobbiton?

Ooh, I was fiddling around with Google Maps, and I tried looking up the road outside Matamata, New Zealand, that leads to the Hobbiton Movie Location.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Buckland+Road,+Waikato/@-37.8575785,175.6821986,270m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x6d6dab3758482d8b:0x8e5d23e03f495fc4!8m2!3d-37.8790418!4d175.6920897

If you go onto Satellite View, you can zoom in and find Hobbiton. You can also use the Street View figure, which you can pop onto the paths between the hobbit holes, and then look at the surrounding area - including tourists, hobbit gardens, and holes. and follow the way around.

Please let me know if you have managed to follow this, and to find your way to Hobbiton?

[Alternative way to look for it: look up Buckland Road, Matamata 3472, New Zealand, and scroll north from the location it gives you (the car park) to the actual place. You can then zoom in and play about with it.]
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