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Re: Writer's World

Postby Phill Lytle » May 17, 2019 9:58 am

Cleander wrote:Excellent article! I love the constant parallels you drew between our world and Narnia. Very evocatively written! Thanks for sharing that!


Thanks! I appreciate the kind words. My most recent reading of the books really brought home that phrase. The idea that "Aslan is on the move." It is so evocative. It is mysterious yet still conveys a sense of power and excitement. The first time we read that phrase, we have no idea who Aslan even is, yet we feel He can fix things.

I think that parallels quite beautifully with our own world.
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Re: Writer's World

Postby Kalta79 » May 26, 2019 2:03 pm

Wrote a little this morning, and when I had one character notice another character's expression on their face, I started wondering why it sometimes feels necessary to specify that it's a facial expression. I mean where else would the expression be? On their kneecap?
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Re: Writer's World

Postby Cleander » May 26, 2019 6:30 pm

Kalta79 wrote: when I had one character notice another character's expression on their face, I started wondering why it sometimes feels necessary to specify that it's a facial expression. I mean where else would the expression be? On their kneecap?


Well, I guess it's possible to emote with your hands, either by gesturing or just fidgeting worriedly. But most people will probably get it (imo) if you just say a "a horrified/elated/amused expression."

I have something like 6 or seven novels "in progress" at the moment... which means that I actually write stuff in the first draft for one about once a week, scribble down some ideas for the other now and then, and occasionally think about how I really should be getting back to the other 4 or 5. 8-|
And I haven't published anything yet, so we'll see how this goes!
Here's something my own writing has made me wonder: how do you make characters realistic when they're just talking comfortably with another character about things that aren't vital to the plot? How do you keep that from sounding forced and un-relatable?
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Re: Writer's World

Postby Kalta79 » May 26, 2019 7:09 pm

I've learned quite well that characters have a nasty habit of doing whatever they want even if it's not what you intended for them, and to me it only seems forced if you try and stop them. I write pretty much for a hobby, and the main couple in my story had a major fight about 5 chapters in, and 10+ chapters later, I'm like Come on you guys, you've had more than enough time to be stupidly stubborn, just kiss and make up so I can get on with the story!, but they didn't want to listen...
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Re: Writer's World

Postby Cleander » May 27, 2019 9:14 am

You know, I've never had characters get that disobedient. You should consider disciplining them by writing them into a disaster. :D
I kinda wish most of my characters felt that real, though...
I guess the vital question is not "what DID so-and-so do?" but "what WOULD so-and-so do?"
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Re: Writer's World

Postby MoonlightDancer » Jun 15, 2019 12:10 pm

Kalta79 wrote:I've learned quite well that characters have a nasty habit of doing whatever they want even if it's not what you intended for them, and to me it only seems forced if you try and stop them. I write pretty much for a hobby, and the main couple in my story had a major fight about 5 chapters in, and 10+ chapters later, I'm like Come on you guys, you've had more than enough time to be stupidly stubborn, just kiss and make up so I can get on with the story!, but they didn't want to listen...


Haha! I have the same problem sometimes. It turns out my main character isn't very likeable at all. The good news is you have room for development. Think of some other external circumstances which may make your characters realize that being stubborn over little things isn't worth it long term. Or have the fight backfire on them. Or put them in a situation where they are forced to work together. Lots of options, lol.
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Re: Writer's World

Postby coracle » Jun 15, 2019 2:59 pm

Do you find that you need to guess what your characters are like, before you write about them, or do their personalities just unfold as you write?

My current piece has a brother and sister, whose names were not chosen for their meanings (as I have done in the past) but from another source. This has meant their personalities were not pre-set, so I have begun by listening to their thoughts as they tell some of the story.
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Re: Writer's World

Postby Cleander » Jun 15, 2019 6:01 pm

coracle wrote:Do you find that you need to guess what your characters are like, before you write about them, or do their personalities just unfold as you write?


You know, even though I don't believe that circumstances alone make a person what they are, it seems like my characters develop personalities based on the circumstances that I already placed them in. They have to be the kind of person that would make such-and-such a decision, because it's vital to the plot. That can be a pain later on because they might have to do something totally out of character for the plot's sake without any room for a reasonable explanation for what made them change.
I also get these dramatic lines stuck in my head for the characters to say, and it feels like they HAVE to say them... so the characters evolve into the kinds of people who would say those big, dramatic lines.
So I guess you could say their personalities unfold as I write.
Does anyone else have these sorts of problems with this method?
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