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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby Liberty Hoffman » Feb 16, 2010 12:18 pm

the fire flowers must have been there since the creation of Narnia because they have awesome healing power and I have always thought that they must have been made from Aslan's song on that first day!
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby Glenstorm the Great » Feb 16, 2010 2:14 pm

^^I think so too. Most things were I'm pretty sure...
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby daughter of the King » Feb 16, 2010 4:04 pm

Glenstorm the Great wrote:I don't think it was another world or a star. Just some kind of magical force.

Do you mean the sun, or the flowers? I think the sun is a sun, but with mountains and valleys and inhabitants such as the birds.
Liberty Hoffman wrote:I have always thought that they must have been made from Aslan's song on that first day!

Yes, they must have been.
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby Lady Galadriel » Feb 16, 2010 4:19 pm

daughter of the King wrote:
Glenstorm the Great wrote:I don't think it was another world or a star. Just some kind of magical force.

Do you mean the sun, or the flowers? I think the sun is a sun, but with mountains and valleys and inhabitants such as the birds.


The sun is most definitely a sun. I have a bunch of references in mind but have no time to put them down -- perhaps later if I have a chance.
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby Glenstorm the Great » Feb 16, 2010 4:37 pm

dotK: I don't know about inhabitants. Maybe a rugged terrain, not just a ball of fire, but I don't think it has a habitable place.
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby DiGoRyKiRkE » Feb 16, 2010 4:44 pm

Hmm, I think it would have to have at least some sort of habitable places. Otherwise the birds wouldn't be able to live there. In VODT, it says that they fly directly out of the sun meaning that they have to live there. Although. . . now that I think about it, if they are a sort of firebird or phoenix, there's no reason why they couldn't tolerate the extreme heat. Who knows, perhaps the outside of the Narnian sun is exactly like our sun, flaming, hot and gaseous. However, (and I've never thought of this before) the valleys of the sun could be a sort of internal caven, much like people used to think of the interior of the earth. That would explain how life could exist there, without being exposed to the extreme heat. Just a thought.
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby Glenstorm the Great » Feb 16, 2010 4:51 pm

^^that's a cool idea! Probably true. :)
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby Lady Galadriel » Feb 16, 2010 7:20 pm

Really neat ideas here! :)

Here are those quotes I was talking about:

Digory had never seen such a sun. The sun above the ruins of Charn had looked older than ours: this looked younger. You could imagine that it laughed for joy as it came up. And as its beams shot across the land the travellers could see for the first time what sort of place they were in...

(The Magician's Nephew, Chapter 8)

(Below quote from the Last Battle, Chapter 14--I've cut out sections to make it shorter)
At last the sun came up. . . .It was three times--twenty times--as big as it ought to be, and very dark red. . . .


The quote goes on to describe the Moon coming up and the sun and "...the two ran together and became one huge ball like a burning coal..." (on the next page)

There are references in other books too on "the valleys of the sun." :)
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby CorazonBandido55 » Mar 15, 2010 6:56 am

I always imagined the fire flowers grow somewhere in Aslans Country, despite they fact that they are from the sun.
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby Liberty Hoffman » Mar 17, 2010 9:30 am

^^ yes! mountains in the sun = a place in Aslan's Country! that's how I've always imagined it!
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby daughter of the King » Mar 19, 2010 2:49 pm

Hmm.........I don't think the mountains in the sun are in Aslan's country. Aslan's country is behind the sun. I'm pretty sure the mountains in the sun are mountains in the sun.
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby DamselJillPole » Apr 09, 2010 10:35 pm

I do believe that the remedy comes from Aslan's Country. And I dont know if it is a flower just called Fire Flower. But it sort of reminded me of the medicine in the apple Digory gives to his mother. That is why I dont believe it to be only a flower since it also came from a healing apple.

It could be a miracle seed.
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby stardf29 » Apr 24, 2010 12:45 pm

Clearly, the Fire Flowers are made of the same substance that can make a plumber shoot fireballs out of his hands. ;)

Jokes aside, heat in general is something that is fairly connected to healing. It kills germs, cauterizes wounds, and is a source of energy that the body needs to work. So the connection between that and the healing power of the Fire Flowers is certainly there.
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby ericnovak » Apr 24, 2010 1:54 pm

Personally I always thought that the cordial would have tasted more like a fruit then a vegetable. Something like an orange, maybe? I suppose color may have influenced this opinion and I know it's totally unfounded but so are any other taste related posts :p

As for WHY the cordial heals, does there have to be a reason? Obviously it either has very strong herbal or magical properties.

I always thought the fire flowers came from Aslan's country. That part of the land just seems to just reflect the glory of the Emperor Across the Seas as we see in the end of the VODT...
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby Liberty Hoffman » Apr 27, 2010 12:22 pm

I have always wondered if Father Christmas himself had gone to get the juice of the Fire Flowers himself to give to Lucy?
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Re: Fire Flowers

Postby ericnovak » Apr 30, 2010 7:24 am

I suppose you could ask that question about any of the gifts. Did Father Christmas actually make them or were they really from Aslan?
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