Lady of the Green Kirtle

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Re: Lady of the Green Kirtle

Postby Anfinwen » Jun 24, 2015 3:28 pm

The Rose-Tree Dryad wrote:I really love the idea of the folds of her dress softly, bewitchingly sparkling in the light of the green fire when she is playing her mandolin, and then suddenly turning dark and ominous-looking when Puddleglum has stamped out the flames


I like that idea a lot!

This painting of Lady Macbeth by John Singer Sargent really remind me of LotGK https://www.pinterest.com/pin/401101910540443683/

And this design by Omani designer Amal
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/401101910540443786/
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Re: Lady of the Green Kirtle

Postby The Rose-Tree Dryad » Sep 09, 2016 2:38 am

I was looking up Arthur Rackham's illustrations of Siegfried and the Twilight of the Gods after seeing Lewis mention them in Surprised by Joy, and a couple of them make me think of costume possibilities for the LotGK:

I like the full, flowing dress in this one; the visual the LotGK enfolded in a lot of beautiful, billowing fabric, as though to conceal her true form, could be a good one. (See also this Waterhouse painting.)

This illustration made me think of when the LotGK approaches the questers in Underland. I like the design of the sleeves and the weird symbols embroidered on the dress (makes me think of the strange, creepy designs carved into the giant bridge), and I also like her long braided hair—I think it would be neat if they styled the LotGK's hair like that at some point in the film.
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Re: Lady of the Green Kirtle

Postby Adeona » Sep 15, 2016 12:56 pm

Those design ideas would definitely fit LotGK, Rose. :) I particularly like the thought of her hair being in two long braids at some point - braids have such a youthful and almost naïve look which would be perfect.
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Re: Lady of the Green Kirtle

Postby ValiantArcher » Oct 30, 2016 6:24 pm

Interesting, Rose. I know we'd discussed sleeker dresses to hint at the snake aspect, but the idea of loose-flowing clothes to conceal that aspect also makes sense. Perhaps her dresses could subtly but progressively get sleeker throughout the film? Though I feel like there should be something about her clothing when Drinian sees her that is a bit "off" with the innocent image portrayed in her first meeting with Rillian; that could subtly signal Drinian's discordance with Rillian.
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Re: Lady of the Green Kirtle

Postby The Rose-Tree Dryad » Feb 06, 2017 3:10 pm

I like the idea of the LotGK's dresses becoming progressively sleeker (and more snake-like) throughout the film, Valia!

I have a harder time making up my mind about what her first dress should look like, though. On the one hand, I feel like something should give the audience a slight clue that this woman is not all that she seems — that she is concealing a secret of some kind — but I'm quite against the idea of a poison green dress as Lewis describes, the sort of thing that might immediately tip the audience off to bad magic and Drinian's own reaction. That all depends on whether or not the filmmakers try to conceal her true nature from the audience for as long as possible, though!

In other Narnian fashion news, I ran across some Edmund Blair Leighton paintings the other day that offered some inspiration for the LotGK's wardrobe.

Stitching the Standard, as well as this painting which shows a similar (or the same?) dress from the back, struck me as being a good possibility for the dress that the LotGK might wear when Rilian first sees her. It looks very simple and unassuming, almost like something a peasant-girl would wear. I can imagine the overdress being a light, soft green. The loose-fitting overdress also makes me think of a kirtle, which were "loose-fitting garments without a waist seam" prior to the fourteenth century when they started to sport fitted bodices. (I wonder what style Lewis had in mind when he chose the word for her name, if any? I'm sure he had some knowledge of medieval fashion, but I don't know how extensive it was.)

Another set of paintings that caught my eye were these two, which seem to depict the same dress: this one and this one. I love the color and the design... so very pretty, and exactly the sort of thing that Jill might call a scrumptious dress, but also quite evocative of the scales of a snake! I can easily imagine her wearing a dress like this when the questers meet her in the mountains, or in her final scene in the Dark Castle.

That said, the lady in the latter painting looks so pious, I was almost hesitant to connect her ensemble with the evil LotGK, but it also got me thinking: do you suppose the LotGK might wear a head-covering similar to the one she is wearing, as if to bolster her false innocence? (I can also picture it transforming into the hood of a snake, which is seen on species such as the cobra.)
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