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Re: What about Jill Pole?

Postby Glumpuddle » Nov 09, 2013 9:00 am

A number of sites reporting the movie announcement say that Eustace is the main character. I'm a bit worried this will end up happening actually. The book, I think, is all about Jill learning to trust again. Just posted a video about my concerns:



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Re: What about Jill Pole?

Postby fantasia_kitty » Nov 09, 2013 10:13 am

glumPuddle wrote:A number of sites reporting the movie announcement say that Eustace is the main character. I'm a bit worried this will end up happening actually.

Of the many things I'm worried about with this movie, this is somewhere near the bottom of the pile. I chock it up to people not having read the book and have no idea what they're talking about OR that they knew their readers would recognize Eustace from the VDT movie so they simply referenced him as a carry-over.
We live in a 'movies-must-have-a-kick-butt-female' age. I think it's more likely that Jill will be made too macho (ie Susan) and override Eustace, than be shoved into the background.
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Re: What about Jill Pole?

Postby Glumpuddle » Nov 09, 2013 12:43 pm

fantasia_kitty wrote:I chock it up to people not having read the book and have no idea what they're talking about OR that they knew their readers would recognize Eustace from the VDT movie so they simply referenced him as a carry-over.


Well yeah. :p But it is something I have been worried about for quite a while. I can see the filmmakers wanting to focus more on a familiar character. Or maybe not really having a single clearly-defined main character like the first three films.

I think this is one of my top concerns: Will Jill Pole be the focus of the movie?
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Re: What about Jill Pole?

Postby Reepicheep775 » Nov 09, 2013 2:35 pm

I agree that Jill Pole is the main character in SC. Eustace's journey happened in VDT, but SC is Jill's journey, Eustace being more in the background.

I would also be upset if the film-makers made Jill "kick-butt". In the book, Jill is insecure and turning her into a "warrior princess" would not be good. That said, I actually wouldn't mind if Jill fights in the battle against in the Lady of the Green Kirtle in serpent form (in the book, Jill is watching, trying not to "faint - or blub - or do anything idiotic"), simply because of its placement in the story. At that point (near the end of the book), Jill should be more confident than she had been earlier in the story and it could be a good character moment if done well. I'm not saying I want them to do this, but I wouldn't mind if they did.

*goes to watch glumPuddle's video*
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Re: What about Jill Pole?

Postby DamselJillPole » Nov 13, 2013 12:18 pm

I agree that Jill Pole is and should be the main protagonist and also what Reepicheep775 said.

I know Andrew Adamson when he was directing these movies he really wanted to put Susan to use of the gifts that Father Christmas gave her. Susan never really fought in the books however in the films she's all over the place like a male Legolas, it took a while for me to see the point of that and I agreed that since she was given them she should put them to use.

But with Jill Pole I agree to not make her "Kick-butt" until The Last Battle in my opinion however I am wanting to see a character change in her towards the end of the movie but not fighting like Susan.
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Re: What about Jill Pole?

Postby coracle » Nov 14, 2013 2:47 am

This is a story about both children, and although we see it more through Jill's eyes, the film must show their improving interaction and growing respect and friendship.
Since we have already got to know Eustace in VDT, and have seen his major development, we will expect to see more about Jill and her learning experiences in SC, but this doesn't make the book about her, and it would be a mistake to make the film focus on her.

The last section of the book, with the four friends escaping together, is going to make a strong part of the film.
Perhaps we can say that the filming starts in a small space where Jill is hiding and crying, and opens out to show a larger and larger view.
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Re: What about Jill Pole?

Postby SarahHighland » Nov 29, 2013 11:56 pm

Lewis is criticised by some people for some of his his female characters being interested in "floaty dresses and perfume and jewellery" but Jill Pole learns to transcend 1940s femininity I feel - indeed so does Lucy Pevensie.

The common image of Jill comes from her portrayal by Camilla Power in the BBC version.

Camilla really defined Jill for a generation. How will the new movie top that?
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Who should play Jill Pole

Postby jewel » Mar 21, 2014 6:59 am

The Silver Chair will hopefully be coming within the next 4 years. I've heard about auditions for an actress to Jill. Any good ideas for a recommendation, even if it's yourself? :D
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Re: Who should play Jill Pole

Postby King_Erlian » Mar 21, 2014 8:14 am

Caitlin Blackwood, who played the young Amelia Pond in "Doctor Who". I think she's about 11 or 12 now.
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Re: What about Jill Pole?

Postby Reepi » Mar 30, 2014 4:05 am

If they are going with Will Poulter again (which I hope, since recasting a character from one movie to the next is a bad idea - and Poulter is a brilliant actor), then they might want to go with an actress which is similar to his height. Given that Poulter has grown considerably in the last few years, how about a female lead who is also a little older?

Emma Watson, anyone?
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Re: What about Jill Pole?

Postby King_Erlian » Mar 31, 2014 2:08 am

If you cast Will Poulter and Emma Watson, you'd have to change the story quite a bit - there's no way that they can pass for schoolchildren now. University students, maybe. ;)
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Re: What about Jill Pole?

Postby You Will Find Me Bigger » Apr 01, 2014 8:41 pm

I agree... they are adults now and would look ridiculous as school children. Besides, I'm quite sure Ms. Watson has no desire to return to a school girl role... she's had enough of a mountain to climb not to be typecast, and to get adult roles!
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Re: What about Jill Pole?

Postby PhelanVelvel » Apr 13, 2014 10:05 pm

fantasia_kitty wrote:We live in a 'movies-must-have-a-kick-butt-female' age. I think it's more likely that Jill will be made too macho (ie Susan) and override Eustace, than be shoved into the background.


Too macho?! I thought she was very delicate and lady-like even whilst she was fighting, lol. :P What can I say, I like my heroines kicking butt!
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Re: What about Jill Pole?

Postby jewel » May 07, 2014 11:50 am

Phelan Velvel, I like Jill Pole pretty good to.
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Re: What about Jill Pole?

Postby PhelanVelvel » May 07, 2014 7:33 pm

jewel wrote:Phelan Velvel, I like Jill Pole pretty good to.


Yup, I can't wait to see how they portray her in the film! I always thought it was so cool how she calms the horses, then rides Snowflake while the Prince rides Coalblack. I'm sure that will make for some cinematic shots.
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Re: What about Jill Pole?

Postby The Rose-Tree Dryad » Jul 02, 2014 12:17 pm

It's really hard to say who would be a good actress for Jill Pole, especially since kids grow up so fast and we're not exactly sure when they'll start filming.

I've always thought that the girl who played Jill in the BBC version of The Silver Chair looked the part quite well, so I'd be fine with someone who resembles her. Since Lucy and Susan are already brunettes and Polly will probably end up being blonde, if they go the same route as the illustrations, then maybe they should have Jill be a redhead. (It would match her feisty attitude!)

More than anything, though, I want an actress who is able to bring the character to life. Jill has an amazing character arc in The Silver Chair, and the role needs to be given to someone who is extremely gifted. I'm hoping for a girl who is largely unknown, but very, very talented.
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