How should they Score the Silver Chair?

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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby Thunder-Fist » Feb 13, 2014 2:11 pm

I know its been a long time since anyone posted on this thread, but this subject is very important to me. In film, music is nearly as much of a character as the narrator is in a book. It dictates (along with many other aspects) tone and emotion. There is nothing I love more than a movie that has the guts to do something different with its score. I would love if The Silver Chair had a distinctive score filled with character. Think of what Hans Zimmer did with the Sherlock Holmes films. Both are supported by gypsy and Balkan inspired music, giving the films a distinct flavor. One of my favorite movies of all time, The Third Man, is entirely scored with solo zither music. It is the perfect soundtrack for the film with its crumbling postwar Vienna setting. Obviously I don't think every film should have zither music, but it seems like so many movies now have no creativity in their scores. Stock action music here. Stock brooding music here. Stock wonder-filled music here.

I like the idea of a Celtic theme to the score. It would fit the tone (I think), and a lot of the mythology in the books came from Celtic mythology, and The Silver Chair is very low on the Greek mythology that abounds in some of the other books. If they wanted, the Narnia motifs could still be there alive and well, done in a unique style (though I tend towards the idea of a brand new score myself) and the Celtic feel could get stronger and stronger as the characters travel north and then darken and deepen when they head under ground. That may be a bit on the nose, But I think that sounds awesome.

Thanks if you've read this, I know I'm a bit late to the party :( .
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby King_Erlian » Feb 14, 2014 2:46 am

Apologies for repeating myself (I said this on another thread), but I do feel that a Celtic style of music has become such a cliche in fantasy-genre films. Anything with swords and dragons in it is seen as "pseudo-mediaeval" and to give it that atmosphere, you invariably get Northumbrian pipes and harps and long-haired minstrels strumming lutes. Far from giving The Silver Chair a distinctive feel, I think it would make it feel like every other fantasy film. I really like Celtic music (Clannad, Iona) but I agree with Thunder-Fist that it needs something distinctive. As for what, I'm not sure. Rather than a full orchestral score, maybe a solo piano (Ludovico Einaudi)...?
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby Thunder-Fist » Feb 14, 2014 8:27 pm

Perhaps some Norse influence would work well, especially for the Marshes, wastelands, Ettinsmoor, and Harfang. Instruments like the boneflute, viking panflute, and the lyre aren't quite as overused and have distinct sound. While the feel is often quite medieval, arrangements would play a huge part in that. I can easily visualize the three travelers trekking through the wastelands to the high, cold notes of a boneflute supported, when needed, by a subtle orchestra for resonance (perhaps dark strings and winds). I could see the giants of Harfang suited well with some feasting and choral music of similar cultures, and the deep choral songs of the vikings could seamlessly transition into the darkness of sunless land and wherever the score went from there on.

One problem is viking-esque battle music might sound video gamey. But since most of it isn't very accurate (and there shouldn't be any actual battle music anyway) I think any unwanted association could be avoided by a competent composer.

Just some ideas, not really thought out too much. Keep in mind I mostly mean where to look for inspiration, not literal, period accurate songs, nor the inaccurate contemporary idea of what Norse music is.
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby Future Narnian » Aug 21, 2014 12:09 pm

Narnian_Storm wrote:I think Thomas Bergeson would be great if he did that sort of thing. I like TSFH music a lot too and think it would fit perfectly. Hans Zimmer is always a good choice- he has so many amazing scores to his name.



Hans Zimmer scoring a Narnia film would be like the ultimate for me. He is one of my favorite composers ever. Actually, since we obviously won't have the continuity of one composer like LOTR & The Hobbit, my next choice would be:

Patrick Doyle for The Silver Chair. I've listened to a couple Shakespearen scores he did (my favorite is Henry V) and I kind of see a similarity to the mood you would need. And he does really beautiful climax music that could really do justice to when Rilian is revealed.

John Williams for The Magician's Nephew. Initially I thought the only movie John's style would suit was LWW and that's already taken. But after listening to The Book Thief soundtrack I think he could do really well with The Magician's Nephew. There was something about The Book Thief score that had a similar feel to how I think of The Magician's Nephew and how I picture it as a movie.

Jerry Goldsmith for The Horse & His Boy. Initially I was going to say Hans Zimmer because of his scores for Gladiator and The Bible, but then I listened to the music from Elvis Stojko's skating program to The Mummy again. (I hate those movies with a passion but I have heard the scores and they're terrific). The music Jerry used would be perfect for HHB - there's music for the desert, great battle music - everything.

Hans Zimmer for The Last Battle. No question. He can obviously do battle music (POTC films, Gladiator) and some of his climax themes sound like they belong in Aslan's Country. Listen to the first 45 seconds of The Battle from Gladiator and the track "My Name Is Lincoln" from The Island.
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby Lake Lachrymose » Feb 19, 2015 4:29 pm

You all gave such interesting suggestions! I don't know if anyone already mentioned him here, but I just discovered Austin Wintory and he's really wonderful. I really liked his work. You can listen to this, the Journey Soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qizpBpH ... gj&index=1

I know it's from a video game, but he does soundtracks for movies too. I don't know if he would fit the movie or if he would do a good job with TSC, but I like his compositions.
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby Anfinwen » Feb 20, 2015 9:46 am

Future Narnian wrote:Hans Zimmer scoring a Narnia film would be like the ultimate for me.

Didn't he do "Prince of Egypt"? I've never seen it but I was obsessed with the story of Moses a while back and I listened to the soundtrack regularly. It's fantastic, so I wouldn't mind him scoring a Narnia film.
Thunder-Fist wrote: Instruments like the boneflute, viking panflute, and the lyre aren't quite as overused and have distinct sound.

Ohhhhh I can almost hear that! Instead of Celtic they could do a more medieval minstrel sound with the pipes, flutes, a harp, and I hear a hammered dulcimer in there too! If you've never heard one you must give this a listen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELWbrfZ2OL0
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby Lake Lachrymose » Feb 20, 2015 8:18 pm

Austin Wintory just replied me on twitter and he said: "I have a hand-made Dawn Treader here in my studio from my childhood I made with my father :)". That's so amazing, I can't even explain. One more reason for me to like him and imagine his compositions on the movie, haha. He's really nice.
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby Golg » Apr 12, 2015 11:20 am

My favorite contemporary composer is James Newton Howard.

I would simply love him to compose for the Silver Chair.
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby Future Narnian » Jun 26, 2015 12:48 pm

Okay, I have to make a correction. I posted Jerry Goldsmith for The Horse and His Boy, not realizing he passed away back in 2004! My apologies. So I guess my revised list is Hans Zimmer for both HHB and LB (He's proven capable of the Bible-era movies with Gladiator and the Bible Miniseries, and you'd use similar music probably for Calormen country?), John Williams for MN, and Patrick Doyle for SC.
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby Anfinwen » Sep 05, 2015 11:33 am

I've been thinking, what do you all think of a Tchaikovsky influence in the score? I feel the some of the scenery could be very Russian/Siberian, and that sound could work quite well. (Just imagine the great snow dance) It would give the movie a more timeless and romantic feel.
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Perhaps it would put it in a different genera than modern fantasy/action/adventure films.
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby PhelanVelvel » Sep 17, 2015 11:20 am

Tchaikovsky is my favourite composer. I would definitely be cool with seeing his influence in the score. C:
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby The Rose-Tree Dryad » Aug 16, 2016 9:07 pm

This may be wishful thinking, but I think it would be really cool/interesting if Adam Young scored The Silver Chair. He's the genius behind Owl City, and yes, I know Owl City is electronica, but this year he launched a new project: Adam Young Scores. Each month, he releases a soundtrack to a moment in history that inspires him, such as Apollo 11 or the first flight across the Atlantic. While some of them utilize a lot of synth, many are quite orchestral. (For instance, "Silence" on the Titanic soundtrack sounds quite Narnian to me.)

I don't know if he has the experience for the job, but I think he's quite talented and creative and I'm sure he would give the film a very unique sound. Plus, it seems like he might be a Narnia fan!
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby waggawerewolf27 » Aug 17, 2016 1:55 am

I know it might not be everyone's cup of tea. But I'd be really thrilled if some of Daniel John's music, as performed by his group Silverchair was worked in somehow. This Australian music group called themselves Silverchair after the Narnia book, and it would be sort of cool if the film borrowed their music back if the film director thought it was at all suitable or relevant. ;)
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby narnia fan 7 » Aug 17, 2016 10:22 am

I listened to Adem Young' s RMS Titanic album, and I kind of see what you're talking about Rose, a number couple of the songs do have a of Narnian quality to them, I don't know if Adem Young himself would be a good choice for composing the score, but if we kind of similar too those couple track with a full orchestra I think could be something excellent.
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby Reepicheep775 » Aug 19, 2016 11:38 am

The Rose-Tree Dryad wrote:This may be wishful thinking, but I think it would be really cool/interesting if Adam Young scored The Silver Chair. He's the genius behind Owl City, and yes, I know Owl City is electronica, but this year he launched a new project: Adam Young Scores. Each month, he releases a soundtrack to a moment in history that inspires him, such as Apollo 11 or the first flight across the Atlantic. While some of them utilize a lot of synth, many are quite orchestral. (For instance, "Silence" on the Titanic soundtrack sounds quite Narnian to me.)

I don't know if he has the experience for the job, but I think he's quite talented and creative and I'm sure he would give the film a very unique sound. Plus, it seems like he might be a Narnia fan!

Oh, I would love that! Adam Young's music really fills me with the sense of longing for another place that I also associate with Narnia, so I think they would be a perfect match. And, while I'm nowhere near an expert on movie soundtracks, after listening to his recent scores, I think Adam Young has the skill to pull off a genuine movie score.
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Re: How should they Score the Silver Chair?

Postby The Rose-Tree Dryad » Aug 20, 2016 5:03 pm

waggawerewolf27 wrote:I know it might not be everyone's cup of tea. But I'd be really thrilled if some of Daniel John's music, as performed by his group Silverchair was worked in somehow. This Australian music group called themselves Silverchair after the Narnia book, and it would be sort of cool if the film borrowed their music back if the film director thought it was at all suitable or relevant. ;)


Oh, so they actually got their name from Narnia? That's cool! I suppose I've been rather miffed at them for a few years now because every time I would search for Silver Chair news, nine times out of ten an article about them would come up instead. ;)) They have a nice old-school sound! Maybe they could write a song for the movie album.

Reepicheep775 wrote:Adam Young's music really fills me with the sense of longing for another place that I also associate with Narnia, so I think they would be a perfect match.


Ditto! I also feel that C.S. Lewis and Adam Young both have a similar skill for synthesizing the ordinary and extraordinary into something uniquely magical... in Young's music, I find a lot of the same kind of enchantment as the image of a faun carrying an umbrella. I think those two souls may hail from the same star, so to speak. I really hope they at least consider Young for the job!
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