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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby daughter of the King » Oct 10, 2015 1:11 pm

Ryadian wrote:I'm curious - can you easily watch Heroes Reborn if you haven't seen Heroes?


I think so. I've only watched the first two or three seasons of Heroes and so far I've been able to follow along pretty well. They've done a good job of introducing new characters and when they bring up old characters it's usually explained how that character was relevant. However, I definitely recommend watching the webisodes Dark Matter. They bridge between the two series and set the stage for the start of Heroes Reborn.
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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby ValiantArcher » Oct 10, 2015 5:27 pm

Rya wrote:I have a rather tentative relationship with AoS right now - on the one hand, I think this season has started in an intriguing direction. On the other hand, I'm still rather mad at it for how last season turned out. ;)) The end of last season, sadly, kind of felt like they were making it up as they went along, some of the "plot twists" felt contrived for shock value, and I'm convinced
SHOW SPOILER "Late season 2/Age of Ultron"
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. But, that was last season - let's see if the show gets back into more adventures, less political drama that drags across the entire season. :P

Yeah, last season (especially the end) was mostly a dark (like, theme-wise and lighting-wise) disaster. :P I thought they were getting better in the fourth-to-last episode, but then they took the last three episodes and basically destroyed all the good character development and such they'd done, especially for Ward and Kara Palamas (still upset about how they just threw everything away that they'd done with those two characters). Also, I think your spoiler makes sense---it did come out of nowhere, so they probably had no idea what was going on before. :P I think the mass bunk bed purchase was about the only hint beforehand. ;))
This season does look a lot more interesting/hopeful so far, but I think that's got quite a lot to do with them bringing Jemma home! :D (Which I still can't quite believe they actually did; I was sure they were going to drag it out for a few more episodes at least :P ) They'll probably throw some monkey wrenches in soon, though, so I'm only hopeful very cautiously. I am hopeful that we'll get some little resolution of political drama with next episode where it looks like Coulson will talk again with the government nemesis/counterpart lady re:Inhumans, and hopefully they'll get some sort of Talbot situation figured out (though we haven't seen him in quite a while) where they can work around each other. So here's to hoping for some lighter weekly adventure stories, with some good character arcs! :)

Is anyone looking forward to Supergirl* starting at the end of the month? From the previews it looks like it could be quite fun and lighthearted (which would be reallllllly nice**). :)

*I think I asked about this show last time? Yeah. Oh well. :P ;))

**For a while I've stayed away from superhero movies and shows because they usually are pretty dark and heavy. Marvel kinda hoodwinked me with Avengers and AoS by baiting the fluffy before springing everything else. :P
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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby Puddleglum » Oct 10, 2015 8:04 pm

I have been watching Agents of Shield, and can agree with the comments made.
While I can understand the producers wanting to connect the "Marvel Universe" with all the characters relating to each other in both the movies, and Television, much like the comics do, I think they should do better in making those connections.
I would also like to see a more weekly format. They can keep bringing up a backstory of some sort that slowly develops into a season ending cliffhanger, but the individual episodes need to be able to stand more on their own.
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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby stargazer » Oct 19, 2015 12:17 pm

Rya, I'll echo daughter of the King's comments about Heroes Reborn. Watching the first season or two of the original would be helpful, as it introduces you to many main characters, the storytelling methods used, and the background world. The Dark Matters webisodes are a good bridge between the two series.

I'm a bit annoyed at the new series' treatment of Molly Walker. In the original she's a vulnerable little kid with a power others want, and that makes her something of a sympathetic character. Now she's older, of course, but written in a manner that makes me a lot less interested in what happens to her.
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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby IloveFauns » Dec 03, 2015 6:10 pm

Though definitely not for anyone under 16 years of age, I have been re-watching the tv series The Borgia's.

The second last episode of season 2, Cesare murders his own brother Juan but after years of Juan ruining his own life. Also, Juan got most of his fathers affection and titles ect where as the older son Cesare was left for a life in the church. I seemed to dislike Juan a lot over the two series he was in. Also, the fathers love for his son is so blind. He can't see why anyone would murder his son Juan when Juan himself is a murder and has a lot of enemies. What are your thoughts?
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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby ValiantPevensie4 » Jan 24, 2016 12:59 pm

Today my family is going to catch up on tv shows we missed this week. We're watching Agent Carter, The Flash, and Legends of Tomorrow. I'm pretty excited!
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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby SnowAngel » Feb 15, 2016 5:13 pm

Will anyone else be watching Hallmark this Sunday to see the return of When Calls The Heart? There are so many story lines in season 3: Jack and Elizabeth, Lee and Rosemary, Abigail and Bill or Pastor Frank, Pastor Frank's past, what Gowan is going to mess with next.... So much to look forward to. :D

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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby SnowAngel » Apr 08, 2016 7:19 pm

WOW...WCTH season three went so fast! Just one more episode this Sunday. This week my sisters and I have been driving our brother crazy with all of our conversations about When Calls The Heart. After watching the preview for Prayers From The Heart hard not to talk about it and wonder how the season finale will play out. Plus I made a big mistake this week, I've been reading Brian Bird's tweets (BB is one of executive producer). :-s /:)

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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby SnowAngel » Apr 17, 2016 9:56 pm

When Calls The Heart season 3 is over, and it was a terrific one. Season 3 was way better than season 2. And good news for Hearties everywhere Hallmark renewed When Calls The Heart for a 4th season immediately. :ymparty: :x B-)

The arrival of Jack's mom (played by Brooke Shields) in the second to last episode of season 3 was neat. I liked that she was in Hope Valley when Jack was injured and also there for Rosemary's wedding.

The season finale was packed from start to finish, I really wish it had been spread over two episodes. I loved how everyone worked together throughout the episode. And the scenes with Jack and Elizabeth were =(( and then :x .

Season 3 is definitely my favorite of the three seasons. I actually like that it was Rosemary and Lee that got married this season and not Jack and Elizabeth. Some of the fans don't seem to realize that even though we have to wait 8-9 months for the next season, seasons 2 and 3 picked up right where the previous season left off and so therefore Jack and Elizabeth haven't actually known each other for 2+ years. I do want to see Jack propose to Elizabeth early in season 4, but I also want see a medium/long engagement (maybe the wedding at the start of season 5, yes I am looking ahead ;;) ). Jack does have to build a house on that land he bought.

My sisters and I are crazy about this show. :D But hey, we are crazy together. And we are having a blast speculating about season 4. :-? ;)

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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby fantasia_kitty » Jun 03, 2016 9:45 am

I was having a conversation with some of my mods yesterday about the 'VeggieTales' Netflix spin off series 'VeggieTales in the House.' I had watched some snippets in passing and decided I didn't like it based on how whiny some of the characters were, but then I decided I shouldn't judge based off of a few seconds of walking in on something. :P So I watched the first episode.

If I had not had any kind of preconceived idea on what to expect, I probably would have liked it. It was a couple goofy short stories with some nice morals and a verse. But having been a huge fan of the original Big Idea VeggieTales back in the day, I just felt it lacked the heart and soul and was a little too frantic for me. Of course, too be fair, I wasn't drawn in by the later BI VT either. :P ;)) I lost interest after Esther.

Glad I watched it. I probably won't watch any more unless my kids want to. ;))
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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby SummerSnow » Jun 04, 2016 2:49 pm

SnowAngel, I'm glad to hear that the third season of When Calls the Heart is better than the second. I loved the first and I couldn't bring myself to watch more than a couple episodes of the second. I might try it again so that I can watch the third when it comes out. That's neat that there's going to be a fourth season! Of course, I'll need to watch the second and third season, but hopefully the fourth will be enjoyable. Do you know if the fourth season will come out in the fall or the spring?
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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby SnowAngel » Sep 14, 2016 9:22 pm

Ooops, didn't realize I hadn't replied to you, SummerSnow, I am so sorry. The fourth season of WCTH is starting a Christmas special that will air on Christmas day. I think the rest of the fourth season will air in January or February. I have high hopes for the fourth season, however I wish it was picking up where season three left in the spring time rather than jumping to Christmas.

SummerSnow, I think you could skip to season three. Charles is not in season three at all, but you will miss some good scenes with Rosemary and Lee that are in season two. I love Rosemary and Lee, Lee has some really good lines in season two. They are the highlight of the second season.

Anyone else interested in/watched the newest Hallmark series, Chesapeake Shores? I haven't watch any of it yet. My sisters and I decided to wait to watch it until the week before the last episode of the season airs and that way we can binge watch the whole season. :D It looks interesting, I have been keeping up with the previews for the new episode as they are released.

The show my sisters and I have been watching a lot of this summer is The Man From U.N.C.L.E. We currently have 25 episodes left in the series. Totally loving it. If you have seen the new movie, the show is even better. :D

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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby SummerSnow » Oct 12, 2016 6:55 pm

SnowAngel, I think I might try giving the second season another change when I have a bit more free time. You'll have to let me know how the fourth season turns out.

The Man from U.N.C.L.E is a fantastic television series. When I was younger, I used to watch it with my mom and my sisters. It was a great show! After watching the movie (as different as they are), I've really been wanting to see the TV series again, especially for Illya.
I'm not sure if this has to be in spoilers, but I'm really sad that Gaby isn't in the original series. I'm not sure if it would have worked out that well, but I would still love to have seen her in the context of the original characters.
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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowlander » Oct 13, 2016 8:46 pm

Here I am. And with an admission....I have become addicted to Korean/Taiwanese dramas. I'm still trying to figure out how this happened, but at some point, through mysterious circumstances beyond my ability to articulate, I ended up watching one and enjoying it enough to go into another. And another. And another. And though I may have to turn in my proverbial "man card" for doing so, I must admit that it's some of the best TV I have watched. The stories sometimes tend to be a bit formulaic, but the actors and actresses are all delightful, the plots very interesting, and the drama and intrigue compelling enough for me to keep on watching these, probably until the cows come home.

All the ones I have thus far seen have been on Netflix, and unlike the TV shows one can watch here or in other countries, these air for only one season. In this way the characters in the show maintain a warm reception each week without overstaying their welcome. The shows, while being primarily marketed as romances, tend to have a number of different subplots that undergird them (mainly business-related intrigue). They are remarkably chaste...I mean generally if there's even a hint that some sort of shenanigans have been suggested to have happened, the characters respond in intensely modest ways (covering their faces, averting their eyes, acting embarrassed, etc.), and it makes them much, much more endearing and emphasizes the romance over the physical. I cannot stress enough how this strengthens the romance subplots as it adds an undeniable sense of innocent longing into the mix. Typically they also have a lot of humor involved (generally centered around misunderstandings) which also adds another human element to an already highly enjoyable mix.

Recommendations here would be to start off with light fare....

Noble, My Love is the one that drew me in. It was apparently a web series, and the episodes clock in at 15 minutes apiece. If within the first episode or two the characters have not completely endeared themselves to you, then there's no reason to continue. Beating Again and Children of the Sun are also incredible shows, the latter will appeal to those of military dramas. I just finished When I See You Again last night and I'm already looking for another series to start. And I haven't even gotten to the incredible scenery one sees in these shows, with clean cities and the loveliest landscapes. I physically want to go to South Korea now. Like yesterday. I might just stay. ;))

Give it a go folks....I would not steer you wrong!
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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby The Rose-Tree Dryad » Oct 15, 2016 2:13 pm

You guys are making me curious about The Man from U.N.C.L.E., SA and Summer! My mom says she remembers it from when she was young.

Annyeong haseyo, SL! ;)) I've watched Korean dramas, although I've managed to avoid addiction and only watch them occasionally. They're a nice diversion, especially compared to a lot of Western television! I do really like that they almost always run one season as a rule... you know how much time you stand to lose going into it and then you're "set free" at the end. I'm stingy with how much time I give to television and it bugs me how you basically have to sell your soul to American shows because they keep coming back season after season. /:)

Korean drama is definitely an interesting glimpse into a unique culture (especially if you're intrigued by Asian cultures, as I am) and I've picked up a little bit of Korean along the way, so there's some educational value as well. You'll also encounter a lot of Korean music by watching k-dramas, and you'd better hope that you like it because songs repeat quite often throughout the course of a show. :P I also appreciate the innocence in most of the romance story lines; it's refreshing and more old-fashioned.

Out of the dramas I've seen in the past few years, I think the one I liked the best was The Master's Sun; the episodic style of the episodes was interesting and I thought the main couple was endearing. It's a horror-romantic comedy about a woman who sees ghosts and the wealthy man who ends up hiring her after realizing that her gift can be helpful in the business world. I didn't think it was that scary, but it's not like there's a Scoville scale for that sort of thing. :P It's good for Halloween, anyway.
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Re: The Television Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowlander » Oct 21, 2016 8:13 pm

Rose wrote:You'll also encounter a lot of Korean music by watching k-dramas, and you'd better hope that you like it because songs repeat quite often throughout the course of a show.


Said music is definitely....unique ;)). When it starts in I generally start beatboxing with it, which provides me with much hilarity (and strange looks from the wife). They don't subtitle the lyrics, so for all I know they could be singing about toilet paper or pocket lint, but this doesn't stop me from beatboxing it out. ;))

With the notable exception of Descendants of the Sun, they all seem to follow a specific formula too. The hero is usually going to be a good looking rich guy, often a businessman of some type. The heroine (invariably the romantic interest) is typically going to be a poor or lower income worker but with spunk and indomitable spirit, and it is this which catches the eye of the hero, although it usually starts with them intensely disliking each other at first. And oftentimes they'll insert (from what I've read) popular K-Pop singers into lead roles, which seems to occasionally lead to new acting avenues for them. I'm watching a Taiwanese drama at the moment and they have a T(?)-pop singer in there that seems to be popular there but looks like some sort of real life anime mutant of some sort....gives me the creeps. ;))

And as an aside, since in every single one of these things I see the main characters ingesting ludicrous amounts of instant ramen noodles, I occasionally pick up some from the store myself and scarf some down too during my viewings so I feel more involved somehow :)). I know...I'm weird. I want to go to Seoul now. B-)
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